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	<title>Comments on: Why Yammer Matters</title>
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		<title>By: avi player</title>
		<link>http://www.socrata.com/uncategorized/why-yammer-matters/#comment-46818</link>
		<dc:creator>avi player</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 14:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mind having only 140 characters to express myself on twitter. I think this is why they are called tweets, tweets have to be short (my association) they are just mood updates. If you what to share something bid and valuable in details, blog, not tweet :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind having only 140 characters to express myself on twitter. I think this is why they are called tweets, tweets have to be short (my association) they are just mood updates. If you what to share something bid and valuable in details, blog, not tweet :)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Treadaway</title>
		<link>http://www.socrata.com/uncategorized/why-yammer-matters/#comment-7570</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Treadaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Responding to Marcelo...

An e-mail sent broadly within a company is the 21st Century&#039;s internal memo.  It implies a level of importance that probably limits people from communicating as much as they would.

A Yamm? ;-) is much lower investment... it is both easier to produce and easier to ignore than a company-wide e-mail.  Arguably a Yamm is just as important for routine tasks although any particular Yamm may only be interesting to a single person at most.

My guess is that Yammer will sell enterprise filters or social features on top of the platform after they get some usage to let workgroups communicate effectively.  It appears to me to be an adoption play right now for them.

I love this... simple idea and yes there are replacements, but these guys will get some traction especially in tech savvy companies.  Nice post Kevin.

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Responding to Marcelo&#8230;</p>
<p>An e-mail sent broadly within a company is the 21st Century&#8217;s internal memo.  It implies a level of importance that probably limits people from communicating as much as they would.</p>
<p>A Yamm? ;-) is much lower investment&#8230; it is both easier to produce and easier to ignore than a company-wide e-mail.  Arguably a Yamm is just as important for routine tasks although any particular Yamm may only be interesting to a single person at most.</p>
<p>My guess is that Yammer will sell enterprise filters or social features on top of the platform after they get some usage to let workgroups communicate effectively.  It appears to me to be an adoption play right now for them.</p>
<p>I love this&#8230; simple idea and yes there are replacements, but these guys will get some traction especially in tech savvy companies.  Nice post Kevin.</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Jensen</title>
		<link>http://www.socrata.com/uncategorized/why-yammer-matters/#comment-7569</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that for a small company, especially one that is mostly virtual, Yammer could be really cool. I think for a company the size of ours with over 100,000 employees spread around the world, it&#039;s not something you&#039;d want everyone on at the same time. If it could be made to be &quot;sectioned off&quot; so that you could group people into your own Yammer lists and you can Yam appropriately, I think it would work out much better. I work in several different work groups and what I&#039;d like some people to be aware of, I might not want others to know about. Keep going, though. I think you&#039;re onto something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that for a small company, especially one that is mostly virtual, Yammer could be really cool. I think for a company the size of ours with over 100,000 employees spread around the world, it&#8217;s not something you&#8217;d want everyone on at the same time. If it could be made to be &#8220;sectioned off&#8221; so that you could group people into your own Yammer lists and you can Yam appropriately, I think it would work out much better. I work in several different work groups and what I&#8217;d like some people to be aware of, I might not want others to know about. Keep going, though. I think you&#8217;re onto something.</p>
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		<title>By: David Heller</title>
		<link>http://www.socrata.com/uncategorized/why-yammer-matters/#comment-7568</link>
		<dc:creator>David Heller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 63K Cisco problem is managed by only following people who you are truly interested in receiving their updates. You can always click over to the &quot;All&quot; tab is you want to get a pulse of the whole company. This is the same whether you are talking about Twitter or Yammer.

Here are a few reasons why email isn&#039;t the answer. I can&#039;t control who emails me very well. I can&#039;t know if I&#039;ve copied too many people or not enough. I can&#039;t opt out of a conversation easily. Probably the #1 reason I advocate reducing 98% of email volume: I can&#039;t search someone else&#039;s inbox to see if they have valuable information I need.

Kevin - what about wikis? How does that fit into your communication options?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 63K Cisco problem is managed by only following people who you are truly interested in receiving their updates. You can always click over to the &#8220;All&#8221; tab is you want to get a pulse of the whole company. This is the same whether you are talking about Twitter or Yammer.</p>
<p>Here are a few reasons why email isn&#8217;t the answer. I can&#8217;t control who emails me very well. I can&#8217;t know if I&#8217;ve copied too many people or not enough. I can&#8217;t opt out of a conversation easily. Probably the #1 reason I advocate reducing 98% of email volume: I can&#8217;t search someone else&#8217;s inbox to see if they have valuable information I need.</p>
<p>Kevin &#8211; what about wikis? How does that fit into your communication options?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Ellwood</title>
		<link>http://www.socrata.com/uncategorized/why-yammer-matters/#comment-7567</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Ellwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post,  and I think Yammer can fill a role for some companies;but while I fundamentally disagree with Pat and Marcelo that &quot;it provides nothing more than current email technology&quot;, I don&#039;t think it provides enough more than Twitter plus, say GroupTweet would do for big companies.

I&#039;ve just been writing about &lt;a href=&quot;http://steveellwood.com/2008/09/16/is-yammer-really-a-twitter-in-the-enterprise/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;why Yammer isn&#039;t Twitter for the enterprise&lt;/a&gt;, and from my perspective in a big company the admin price is too high, and the maintenance of approved individuals too onerous.

Most BigCo types could create something equivalent internally; my own company has been playing with a trial for some months (not quite such a pretty interface, it has to be said.)

I wish Yammer good luck, as at least they have *a* financing model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post,  and I think Yammer can fill a role for some companies;but while I fundamentally disagree with Pat and Marcelo that &#8220;it provides nothing more than current email technology&#8221;, I don&#8217;t think it provides enough more than Twitter plus, say GroupTweet would do for big companies.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just been writing about <a href="http://steveellwood.com/2008/09/16/is-yammer-really-a-twitter-in-the-enterprise/" rel="nofollow">why Yammer isn&#8217;t Twitter for the enterprise</a>, and from my perspective in a big company the admin price is too high, and the maintenance of approved individuals too onerous.</p>
<p>Most BigCo types could create something equivalent internally; my own company has been playing with a trial for some months (not quite such a pretty interface, it has to be said.)</p>
<p>I wish Yammer good luck, as at least they have *a* financing model.</p>
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		<title>By: Workshop Rescheduled &#171; SCA Health Strategies&#8217; Weblog</title>
		<link>http://www.socrata.com/uncategorized/why-yammer-matters/#comment-7566</link>
		<dc:creator>Workshop Rescheduled &#171; SCA Health Strategies&#8217; Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 03:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more proof to understand why yammer matters? Good, glad you asked. Read the blist blog posting linked to in the previous sentence: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more proof to understand why yammer matters? Good, glad you asked. Read the blist blog posting linked to in the previous sentence: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://www.socrata.com/uncategorized/why-yammer-matters/#comment-7565</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 03:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine if all 63,000 Cisco employees jumped on the one chat line.

A worker in the Big Corporate Racks division would be receiving Yammer messages from the staff in the African Translation division and Software Development branches.

I would much prefer an email mailing list or an RSS feed.

I also agree with Marcelo that Yammer provides nothing more than current email technology does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine if all 63,000 Cisco employees jumped on the one chat line.</p>
<p>A worker in the Big Corporate Racks division would be receiving Yammer messages from the staff in the African Translation division and Software Development branches.</p>
<p>I would much prefer an email mailing list or an RSS feed.</p>
<p>I also agree with Marcelo that Yammer provides nothing more than current email technology does.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcelo Calbucci</title>
		<link>http://www.socrata.com/uncategorized/why-yammer-matters/#comment-7564</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcelo Calbucci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fail to see how Yammer is different than an email to the team w/ the High Priority flag set.

Better yet, isn&#039;t Yammer just a missing feature of Email or IM? If so, then is not a great product, just a great feature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fail to see how Yammer is different than an email to the team w/ the High Priority flag set.</p>
<p>Better yet, isn&#8217;t Yammer just a missing feature of Email or IM? If so, then is not a great product, just a great feature.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Kolb</title>
		<link>http://www.socrata.com/uncategorized/why-yammer-matters/#comment-7563</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Kolb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kevin,

I don&#039;t think anyone&#039;s disputing the value of the communication model, but I think there are some very valid questions around their business model.

For many things apps in the cloud are perfect, but I&#039;m coming to the realization that you can&#039;t shoehorn companies into a cloud model when it comes to their confidential information and data.  Especially if you&#039;re a startup, you just don&#039;t have that level of trust.

For example, I highly doubt any company that needs government security clearance or SOX compliance will let their employees use anything like Yammer.

But like I said this is a business model problem.  There&#039;s an easy solution:  distribute a premise-based solution.

Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kevin,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone&#8217;s disputing the value of the communication model, but I think there are some very valid questions around their business model.</p>
<p>For many things apps in the cloud are perfect, but I&#8217;m coming to the realization that you can&#8217;t shoehorn companies into a cloud model when it comes to their confidential information and data.  Especially if you&#8217;re a startup, you just don&#8217;t have that level of trust.</p>
<p>For example, I highly doubt any company that needs government security clearance or SOX compliance will let their employees use anything like Yammer.</p>
<p>But like I said this is a business model problem.  There&#8217;s an easy solution:  distribute a premise-based solution.</p>
<p>Jason</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Brubeck</title>
		<link>http://www.socrata.com/uncategorized/why-yammer-matters/#comment-7562</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Brubeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s a great idea.  At Amazon several teams used IRC for this.  My friends had an IRC channel that started as a way to keep track of who was going out for lunch when, but turned into a more general communications back-channel.

37signals has also done a couple takes on this, with both &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.campfirenow.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Campfire&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/848-preview-2-backpack-messages-newsroom&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Backpack Newsroom&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a great idea.  At Amazon several teams used IRC for this.  My friends had an IRC channel that started as a way to keep track of who was going out for lunch when, but turned into a more general communications back-channel.</p>
<p>37signals has also done a couple takes on this, with both <a href="http://www.campfirenow.com/" rel="nofollow">Campfire</a> and <a href="http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/848-preview-2-backpack-messages-newsroom" rel="nofollow">the Backpack Newsroom</a></p>
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